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Turnigy T9X - hardware

admin | Vas web | 27-01-2011, 17:36 | (213.151.238.xxx)

Tu píšte všetko o hardvéri k T9X. Vystríhajte sa vulgárností, osočovania, urážok! Nepleťte si obsah vlákna s iným!

27. 01. 20:36 - Príspevok bol upravený


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Re: Turnigy T9X - hardware

Atto | 28-01-2011, 14:00 | (193.87.172.xxx)

Existuje nejaké zrovnanie kvality elektroniky – hardvéru vysielača Turnigy 9 s inými vysielačmi? Je to štandart, je to špička, alebo je to úbohosť? Ale prosím o vyjadrenie tých, čo ten vysielač majú a tomu aj rozumejú. Ď.


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Re: Turnigy T9X - hardware

Drondys | 28-01-2011, 17:07 | (213.180.34.xxx)

Nevím o žádných srovnávacích testech. Jen různé dílčí dohady a občas nějaké zmínění dílčích hodnot v některých diskuzích např. na . Spíše se vychází ze zkušenosti těch co Turnigy 9X používají už delší dobu jako třeba RiMr. Pro začátek doporučuji, pokud jsi to ještě nečetl, k přečtení článek od RiMra viz odkaz.

Turnigy T9× – Plečka nebo bomba?

Nic lepšího tj. žádné srovnávací testy k tomu zatím není k dispozici.


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Re: Turnigy T9X - hardware

Janko O | 28-01-2011, 18:44 | (109.230.56.xxx)

Ahoj Atto. Drondys to povedal celkom krátko a výstižne. Ja osobne (ale nechcem tvrdiť, že to je ten najlepší spôsob) to robím podobne, ako to už niekto na RC Mánii popísal. Pokúsim sa to tam nájsť a sem. Finta spočíva v tom, že zariadenie, v ktoré chcem mať dôveru, otvorím a veľmi podrobne a veľmi pozorne vyobzerám všetko možné: Kvalitu cínovania – ak treba, preletujem, kábliky k potenciometrom a vypínačom – ak treba, tak zafixujem (preletujem). Niekedy aj určité mechanické „nedorobky“, často stačí len dotiahnuť, nastaviť, zaistiť…. Áno trvá to trebárs aj dve-tri hodiny, ale potom mám „na veky“ pokoj, lebo na letovanie – cínovanie – spájkovanie som pedant. Navyše sa pri tom preletovávaní aj odhalia niektoré problémové súčiastky. Tento zvyk mám ešte zo starých čias, keď mnohé výrobky boli typu DoDo (Dorobiť Doma). Ale podobne som už musel Dorábať Doma kontakt v relátku „značkového“ nemeckého auta, alebo rovnako preletovanie „vyliečilo“ neidentifikovateľnú závadu značkového notebooku IBM.


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Re: Turnigy T9X - hardware

vpershing | 28-01-2011, 20:17 | (92.52.12.xxx)

Otázku HW spoľahlivosti som naznačil vo svojom prvom článku o T9X. Redukuje sa v podstate na mechanické prvky, elektronika je na takej istej úrovni ako hoci v LCD televízore. Napr. prijímaču niet čo vytknúť. Perfektná SMD osadená jednoduchá doska, kde nehrozí odpadnutie súčiastky pri náraze (s tou malou hmotnosťou ani nie je šanca). Zostáva akurát anténa a spoľahlivosť kontaktov. Anténu už riešili viacerí a to nielen u T9X. A pokiaľ bude T9X podobne ako je odporúčané iným vysielačom chránená pred prachom, dlhodobým vystavením na slnku, vlhkosti… tak nevidím rozdiel.


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Re: Turnigy T9X - hardware

Atto | 01-02-2011, 13:12 | (193.87.172.xxx)

Na RC Mánii niektorí odporcovia T9X dosť spochybňujú kvalitu práve vysielača. Že vraj potenciometre nie sú kvalitné a vyhotovenie krížových ovládačov je pofidérne a nepresné. Kvalita kabeláže a neviem čo ešte je tam vraj naprt. O kvalite spájkovania ani nehovoriac.


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Re: Turnigy T9X - hardware

Janko O | 01-02-2011, 18:38 | (109.230.56.xxx)

Vieš, Atto, to máš tak. Kto chce psa biť, palicu si nájde. Inak povedané, ak sú v pozadí akési záujmy, tak je evidentné, že RC súprava, ktorá by mohla vyhovovať väčšine rekreačných modelárov a ktorá je navyše za veľmi priaznivú cenu, nebude protagonistami drahých značkových súprav práve „milovaná“. Preto je treba neustále prinášať jobove zvesti o nespoľahlivosti, o poruchovosti tohoto „diabla v rúchu anjelovom“. A strašiť o možných škodách na majetku, o možných zraneniach a….. Podľa slov „zasvätených“, koniec sveta v roku 2012 bude zapríčinený práve masovým rozšírením súpravy Turnigy 9X.


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Re: Turnigy T9X - hardware

Lubor | 13-02-2011, 20:18 | (80.243.103.xxx)

Tak i já mám už tu svoji doma.

Plíšek na plyn nemá prolis, takže nehrká. Ovladače chodí hladce a plynule, nic nikde nedrhne, nevaklá, prostě docela normální rádio. Párování a odzkoušení se servy (během té chvilky, co mi držely monočlánky) – na první pokus – bez výhrad. Zkoušel jsem i jiný mód než Heli (někdo s tím měl problém), a reagovalo to podle očekávání – nic podezřelého.

Šrouby – dotažené

Pohled dovnitř: – krom 3 spojů bych to asi nesvedl lépe koaxial – od antény nejkratší cestou vedený do prostoru pro modul – tam úhledně stočený jednou smyčkou, aby se nelámal. konektory – jeden byl na pravé straně povytažený (ten 2. bílý zprava na 2.jpg v návodu od Bobolanda – viz. RiMr WEB). Tak jsem ho úplně vysunul, abych zkontroloval, jestli jsou piny OK, a znovu – tentokrát pořádně – zapojil. CPU – na čipu je – co znamená to AU2033? Bylo to přeškrtnuto bílou čarou, snad jsem to správně opsal.

pozn. teda nechtěl bych ručně pájet něco na těch nožičkách u CPU. Bude úplně stačit se trefovat do těch terčů pro připojení programátoru.

Suma sumárum – zatím se mi to jeví jako velmi dobrá koupě.

Čekám na LiPolku (Rhino 2620) a programátor – to si pak pohraju trochu víc (flashnu FW, upravím na učitel/žák, apod.).


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Re: Turnigy T9X - hardware

Janko O | 15-02-2011, 18:02 | (109.230.56.xxx)

Ten plyn mi tiež vadil a tak som hneď ako prvé vytiahol ten pliešok a jamkovačom (důlčíkem) som vyrobil hrb – zúbok. A už plyn rapčí a je to tak, ako to mám rád. Inak na tej mojej T9X som tiež nenašiel nejaké vážne prehrešky voči letovaniu (pájení) ani voči mechanickému vyhotoveniu.


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Re: Turnigy T9X - hardware

jetylo | 28-04-2011, 08:07 | (195.168.38.xxx)

Tak som včera dokončil HW úpravy T9X, ktoré začal Coro tým, že mi tam nahral ER9X + prehodil ovládanie spínačov (ELE, THR)tak, aby sa uvolnili piny pre budúcu montáž FRSKY. Pridal som 1k odpor medzi CPU a vysielací modul, aby fungovalo pripojenie na simulátor (Coro tiež vybral ten 7805 stabilizátor pre pípak) a včera v noci som namontoval a zapojil posvietenie displaya. Použil som 2 biele a 2 modré LED a svieti to na modro(ale to nebol ideový zámer). Predpokladal som, že tie 2 modré to trochu šmrncnú do modra, ale je to celé modré ako keby tie 2 biele vôbec nesvietili. Asi si pripravím nové podsvietenie, kde dám len biele LED a keď to budem rozoberať, tak to asi vymením.


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Re: Turnigy T9X - hardware

jetylo | 28-04-2011, 22:05 | (195.168.227.xxx)

Tak by ma zaujímalo, koľko rôznych prijímačov je k frsky two way telemetry systemu k dispozícii. A to nielen s telemetriou ale aj bez telemetrie. Ja som to tak zbežne spočítal a vyšli mi 3 rôzne možnosti. 8 kanál, 6 kanál a 4 kanál. Má niekto s tým skúsenosti ?


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Re: Turnigy T9X - hardware

jetylo | 16-05-2011, 14:23 | (95.103.155.xxx)

Tak sa zdá podľa diskusie na rcmanii, že činannia asi urobili nejake vylepsenie VF modulu. Najprv som si myslel, že je to chyba FW ER9X, ale asi to spôsobuje zahrievanie elektroniky VF modulu, jedna sa o posun šírky impulzu, Včera v noci som to narýchlo pomeral a zistil som ze to robi 20–30 mikrosekund. Cca po 10 minutách sa to ustáli a už sa to nemeni. Je to veľa alebo málo na to, aby sa roztrimoval model ? Dnes som to meranie opakoval ale s tým, že vstupom nebol knipel ale konštanta (ale asi to vplyv nemá) dosiahol som rozdiel 40 mikrosekúnd, meral som kanál 1 aj 4. Na zajtra mam sľúbenú kolegovu T9X ,tak ešte skúsim aj tú pomerať. 17.5.2011 Tak je pomeraná aj kolegova T9X a výsledok je rovnaký. Po zapnutí to behom cca 10 minút uteká cca o 20–40 mikrosekúnd(impulzy sa natiahnu), v závislosti od teploty okolia(najnižšia bola 10 stupňov nad nulou), na akú sa elektronika vychladí.

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